Thursday, May 9, 2024

Does The Bull Market Have Staying Power? CNBC Theme Of The Day -- May 9, 2024

Locator: 47107INV.

This was the big discussion on CNBC -- whether the "bull market" has staying power. And not once -- oh, there it is -- the Bank of America spokesperson -- he's got it exactly right -- said what is said below, posted back in April 7, 2024. Says to look back to the 1990s -- an incredible decade.

Is anyone paying attention to the oil sector and AAPL:

  • CVX: up $2.47, up 1.52%;
  • AAPL: up almost 1%; up $1.59
  • it still boggles my mind what Buffett sold in the past six months.

Re-posting -- Locator: 46941INV -- April 7, 2024

This has been a common and recurring theme on the blog. 

Link here.

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Re-Posting

Locator: 46855INV.

The US market.

  • S&P 500 closes at 5,248, a new all-time record.
    • AAPL: up $3.60 today; up over 2%. See if you can connect the dots with this one below.
  • This sure doesn't feel like an impending recession. CNBC analysts and talking heads have pushed concerns for a recession out to 2025.

Where's all this money coming from?

  • Covid-19 stimulus money;
  • my favorite chart;
  • IRAs: see below
  • southern surge: a $7 trillion gift
    • (this would require a stand-alone blog -- but elevator speech: federal and state aid; a new agency within the Department of Homeland Security?) 
      • TSA: $11 billion budget; 60,000 employees
      • Citizenship and Immigration: <$1 billion; 4,000 employees

Baby boomer age wave theory: link here.

  • baby boomers: note the size of this demographic at the link;
    • who has all the money? who has all their medical care expenses paid for? whose houses are paid off?
  • birth years: 1946 - 1964
    • ages (2024): 60 years old - 78 years old; mid-range: 69 years old -- today, 2024
  • IRS: RMDs -- about 4% annually
  • ICYMI: in the box above, it's trillion with a "t." That's even more than Elon Musk's bank account.

Addictions:

  • baby boomers: booze, cigarettes, gambling, muscle cars, sports, making money, malls, products,
    • big families, extended families (inherited money diluted to "barely enough to live on"))
  • millennials, Gen Zers: tech, travel, home delivery, services
    • small families (inherited money remains concentrated)

Quick: name a time in the history of the US with the same data points, demographics, and addictions.

Updates

March 27, 2024: one year later ...

  • "Max" chart:

Original Post
January 22, 2023

Key dates to remember with regard to IRAs:

  • 1970
  • 1981
  • 1997

When did IRAs truly start to impact the economy? I would argue, 1995, to some extent, but then took off in 2007:

  • 1970: traditional IRA introduced
  • 1980: folks became comfortable with IRAs
  • 1997: IRAs improved by a huge amount with the introduction of Roth IRAs
  • 2007: another ten years of traditional IRA / Roth IRA growth in popularity

Now, look at this graph:

 Same chart with markers and comments:

Demographics, US:


Look at this, and no one seems to be mentioning this.

Age when one can start taking distributions from one's IRAs: 59.5 years of age.

IRA RMDs by demographic (note, data is somewhat old):

  • silent generation: minimal impact on economy with regard to RMDs
    • those who have IRAs are probably using RMDs for nursing home expenses
  • baby boomers: biggest impact on economy with regard to RMDs
    • those born in 1964: turn 78 years of age this year
    • those born in 1946: turn 60 years of age
    • in other words, every -- repeat, every baby boomer can now take RMDs
    • my wife has been taking distributions before they were required and now RMDs for maybe ten years and despite the withdrawals year-after year, her IRA continues to grow
    • I start taking my first RMDs this year 
    • almost all baby boomers can now tap into their social security benefits
      • almost all baby boomers are covered by Medicare. Medicare benefits got even better in 2024 (thank you, Mr Biden), seniors will spend less money on healthcare (all things being equal)
    • 529s: a lot of baby boomers (GRANDPARENTS) are going to look for tax-advantage accounts to place RMDs they don't need for current expenses
      • 529s have vastly improved starting this year (or last year?) making these investment vehicles look even better -- I'm having trouble finding a better place to re-invest my RMDs
      • interestingly, one can argue that 529s are even better than IRAs
  • generation X: will start to make impact this year but not much, but it will continue to grow every year for the next decade or so
    • those born in 1980: turn 44 years old this year; no impact on economy with regard to RMDs but starting to hit max income / max productive years of their lives
      • the younger Xers, now in the best years of their lives, financially, are now more likely to fund IRAs and that will help set a floor for the equity market; 
    • those born in 1965: turn 59 years old this year!
    • this is the biggie
      • starting this year, generation X folks can start tapping their IRAs; it doesn't mean that they will but it means that if they don't, they have enough other income to offset any need for IRA distribution (meaning strong financial status for those folks)
    • again, this is huge
    • Roth IRAs have been around 27 years and the last 27 years have been great for investors, but
    • even better: the way the market behaved last year and how the market is now behaving in the second half of January, 2024, a lot of folks are getting excited
    • my hunch: a lot of folks are taking some / all of their RMDs this month; if not their entire RMD, taking a fourth to half of their annual RMD
    • only a few more years and Xers will also be able to access social security benefits, also 

On top of all this, this "RMD story" is not going to go away. Year-after-year RMDs will increase in dollar amounts, but whether they increase or not, they will never quit.

And we haven't even begun to talk about "inherited RMDs":

  • "inherited RMDs"? Reminder, oldest baby boomers turn 78 years of age this year -- IRS life expectancy for IRAs tend to trend toward 100 years of age -- taking only minimal RMDs, the vast majority of IRAs will still be funded and growing when their own dies.
  • unlike owners of IRAs who can spread their RMDs over a life expectancy (26 years or longer), beneficiaries (those who inherit IRAs) must deplete those IRAs in ten years.
  • one word: wow.

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