November 24, 2017: from Business Insider -- the Model 3 is putting Tesla in dangerous territory.
The Model 3, meanwhile, is a production disaster. And it is sort of unprecedented in the auto industry — in two ways. First, because Tesla has 500,000 pre-orders for the vehicle, something that's never happened before for any automaker. Second, because if any other automaker had half a million pre-orders for anything, it would be moving heaven and Earth to get those vehicles to market. There's nothing intrinsically exotic about the Model 3, either. It's a midsize sedan. Toyota could build a million next year without breaking a sweat.
As mentioned earlier, I suffer from TDS - Tesla Derangement Syndrome. I am simply fascinated by the company.
From Investopedia, July 31, 2017, from an investor "long" on TSLA:
Actual results were posted at this link. It seems there are a number of different "numbers" provided for actual earning results: GAAP: non-GAAP: fantasy; the company numbers; and so on.
Ignoring 3Q16, there were only three quarters in which the forecast for the quarterly loss beat the actual number (and then, just barely). Perhaps worse, in 4Q15, analysts had forecast a small gain, but actual results were the worst up to that point on the graph above.
And then look at that: the "experts" suggested that the loss in 3Q17 would be less than that in 2Q17. In fact, the loss in 3Q17 came in a $3.70/share vs $2.04, the previous quarter. What is that? An 81% worse loss month-over-month and that was supposed to be when things started getting better.
And "the market" blew that off. TSLA shares just kept on appreciating.
Burning through $8,000/minute works out to:
- $11.52 million / day
- 345.6 million / month
- $1.04 billion / quarter
- 5,000 cars/month with a $10,000 profit margin on each car =
- $50 million / month
- $150 million / quarter
- $100 million / month
- $300 million / month
- $500 million -- a one-time good deal
What is the current EPS forecast for 4Q17 for Tesla. Here's the link; don't hold your breath: a loss of $3.75/share, much worse than the -$1.50 forecast in the graph above.
At that same link, Tesla's yearly earnings are forecast to be a minus $11.38 (for the year). So far,
- 1Q16: -$1.25
- 2Q17: -2.04
- 3Q17: -3.70
- Sub-total: -$6.99
The delta between $11.38 and $6.99 is $4.39 which is slightly different, but in the same ballpark as the estimate of a $3.75 loss for the December, 2017, numbers.
This continues to be a fascinating story to watch.
Disclaimer: the usual disclaimer applies. I often make simple arithmetic errors.
By the way, in this article, November 1, 2017, this comment by the writer, albeit in a link from one of his earlier posts:
With Model 3 anticipation high, Tesla is still selling record numbers of Model S and X. In Tesla’s just-released Q3 2017 earnings report, the company announced that in the same quarter that the much-antipated Model 3 was (soft-)launched, they’ve still managed to produce and deliver record numbers of the Model S and X. This is despite Tesla’s recent focus on “anti-selling” the Model 3, for fear that the upcoming product will negatively affect current S/X sales.Fact check:
Total number of Model X and Model S sold/delivered in the following months:
- June: 2,200 + 2,350 = 4,550
- July: 1,650 +1,425 = 3,075
- August: 1,575 +2,150 = 3,725
- September: 3,210 +4,860 = 8,070
- October (most recent data): 850 +1,210 = 2,060
I can only assume October was an anomaly, and that November sales will be "out of this world. "