Tuesday, March 10, 2020

Coronavirus Update -- Re-Posting -- March 10, 2020

Last update for March 10, 2020:


Regional issue: I don't want to get to far in front of my headlights but if we start to see data that Italy has a handle on this, one starts to get the feeling that even for the United States, it's becoming a "regional" and a state problem with less and less a national problem. Governors are stepping up and making the hard decisions. The Princess Diamond, in hindsight, may have given the experts at the CDC a chance to really, really better understand this virus. [Later, the Italian numbers reported today may be incorrect; apparently the Lombardy region not accurately counted. This makes sense; I had expected a higher number. I was wrong, thinking that things were better than they really were, and I got ahead of my headlights.]

Re-posting. Latest update to today's daily note:
7:38 p.m. March 10, 2020: the Italian numbers reported today may be incorrect; apparently the Lombardy region not accurately counted. This makes sense; I had expected a higher number. I was wrong, thinking that things were better than they really were, and I got ahead of my headlights. If accurate, the Italian numbers tomorrow, March 11, 2020, will be off the chart.
9:24 a.m. March 10, 2020: wow, this thing (coronoavirus) is already over. I stopped by Schwab this morning to deposit some cash, and then do some buying. While waiting I was forced to watch/listen to CNBC but talk about an upbeat feeling. Regardless of the ankle biters, the big story is that this is over. China is actually talking about getting back to normal and banning flights from the US. LOL. Right now, from the Chinese perspective, the US is doing worse than China with regard to the number of new cases. On top of that, the number of new cases will skyrocket as more testing kits become available. By country:
  • Italy: still waiting for today's numbers. Even if Italy has things under control now, it will take two weeks for the numbers to show that.
Cruise ships: a reader wrote me this morning to let me know that CBS had a segment on seven (?) cruise ships off the coast of Florida and folks were boarding. Speaks volumes. Look at the numbers from the best case study we have so far, the Diamond Princess:
  • 3,711 passengers and staff
  • 700 test positive
  • 6 deaths; not one death in anyone less than 70 years of age;
  • it would be interesting to know how many deaths one sees on an average cruise ship of 4,000 people, or if the numbers too low for one ship, over the course of a year; from The [London] Telegraph:
Not surprisingly, cruise lines are loath to talk about people dying on their ships, but it happens. There are an estimated 200 passenger deaths a year – actually remarkably few given the 21.7 million people worldwide that cruise each year.
Italy: the numbers are out for the day. Best report we've had in several days. See note above.

4 comments:

  1. Happened on our Alaskan Cruise. We were at a Restaurant on the boat and we could See a Bathroom out a Window about 30 feet away. Then there was a small commotion, and an intercom code. Something like " All agent orange trained crew members please report to deck XYZ." The commotion grew but efficiently died down to a couple of clean up crew members and one officer. Nothing to see here. It happens enough that they have a trained response for it. It also goes with out saying that many cruises are over 50% retired or almost retired individuals.

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    1. Very interesting, very interesting. Thank you for taking time to write.

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  2. I live 1 mile from ground zero in Kirkland, WA where 19 have died in the Life Care Center, restaurants are dead, wife went to nearby Costco today it was empty (last week was like Christmas). Streets are quiet, life goes on and we do have toilet paper at the grocery store and Costco this week. the disinfectant and hand sanitizer shelves are empty. Yesterday two assisted living had cases, today ten. Most of the residents at Life Center are infected and they just started testing the 180 on staff today. Churches cancelled on Sunday, recommending no groups over 10. I'm 70 in good health, not worried just careful.

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    1. Thank you. This is a fascinating "issue" for researchers in public health. I think the lessons "learned" -- if one can call them lessons learned at this point -- are absolutely fascinating with regard to the best case study out there: the Diamond Princess. There are so many facets that make this so interesting. I assume there are theories why Kirkland, WA, has so many cases.

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